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Threats force SC library to cancel summer program

Joan Oleck -- School Library Journal, 6/20/2007 8:00:00 AM

A South Carolina library system has closed down its summer programs for young adults after receiving threats and allegations that it was trying to promote "witchcraft" and "drug use."

The Pickens County Library System’s half-hour summer programs for middle and high school students were supposed to take a light-hearted look at the topics "Secrets and Spies: How to Keep a Secret by Writing in Code or Making Invisible Ink" and "What’s Your Sign?" Another program was to examine astrology, palmistry, and numerology; and others were to feature tarot cards, tie-dying t-shirts, how to make a Zen garden, and yoga.

Now the programs are cancelled in the wake of phone and e-mail threats from the community, believed to emanate from a single local Baptist church. The astrology program was labeled as "witchcraft" by callers, while the Zen garden and yoga programs were objected to as "promoting other religions." The t-shirts workshop? "Promotes the hippie culture and drug use," callers said.

"If you have an anonymous call of a bomb, what do you do?" asks Library Director Marguerite Keenan, explaining her decision to cancel the YA programs. "You clear the building, you close the building for the protection of the children. And that’s hugely sad."

Keenan says that the stream of threatening 20 or 30 anonymous phone calls, plus e-mails, began two weeks ago. Callers spoke of "picketing" the county’s four libraries and made statements such as "We’re going to get you" and "How dare you?"

She says that a local reporter traced some of the signed e-mails to congregants of a Baptist church, whose pastor was interviewed about the threats.

Keenan adds that she made her decision because she also runs children’s programs and "I’m not going to have preschoolers walk between a gauntlet of pickets.

"It’s just sad that they didn’t feel comfortable enough to talk," Keenan says of the church protest. "We do have a broad community here. And we are a public agency that needs to support all."—Joan Oleck



Now, let's take the tie-dye thing.
Some hippies wear tie-dye shirts.
Some hippies (and by no means necessarily the same) take drugs.
Therefore, in the logic of these people, tie-dye t-shirts promote drug abuse.
This means the Catholic church promotes child abuse.
The German society promotes locking your child up and letting it starve.
The Belgian population promotes child pronography.
All Methodists believe any country not agreeing with the political world views of the US should be bombed into oblivion.
Reading the Quran will make you go blow up your neighbours' houses.

Receiving information about astrology will make you believe in and practice witchcraft.
That means being informed about drugs will make you abuse them.
Being informed about AIDS will make you fuck random people until you get HIV.
Being educated about the dangers of going home with strangers will make you inevitable do just that.


Now let's see.
I am, therefore, a drug-abusing hippie who locks up her child, is busy contracting HIV or at least one other STD, practices witchcraft and participates in all kinds of debauched endeavours with dangerous people whom I follow home if they ask me to.

What are you?

Date: 2007-06-22 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altonwings.livejournal.com
"
...and participates in all kinds of debauched endeavors with dangerous people whom I follow home if they ask me to.
"

Ooh, fly to America! I have so very many debaucher moments that it would really help me out. ;)

Technically, since I have read the entirety of the bible, I should be giving my daughter to anyone who comes to the door, instead of standing up to them.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
Yeah. And if I was married, I would probably seduce my father-in-law. It's in the bible. I'd debilitate my husband. It's in the bible. I'd marry my greatest enemy and in our wedding night chop of his head. It's in the bible.

Hey, we really should follow it word by word, shouldn't we?

Date: 2007-06-22 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
yes I hate that part of the Bible too altonwings

and don't eat Prawns, crabs or crayfish (Leviticus)

To really annoy a right wing homophobe demand they show you in the Bible EXACTLY where Jesus condemned homosexuality. Many believe the story about Jesus helping the Roman Centurion was actually Him approving of a homosexual relationship.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
I believe there is one line somewhere where Jesus states he doesn't like a man loving another man.
However, it might be just Paul telling it, and we all know Paul had some serious problems with any sort of relationship.

The celibacy the Catholic church forces on their priests is based on I believe two lines in the Bible.
One is in some letter of Paul where he states that it is best for the one serving the community as spiritual leader to be unmarried, however if he can't do that, he should have one partner and not sleep around.
Considering how many priests have girlfriends and children the Catholic church ignores, and the number of cases of child abuse, the Catholic church should probably pay more attention to the second half of that statement...

Date: 2007-06-22 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
I really think the Catholic Church would benefit from the Priests being able to marry. Partner and kids can help with their special skills and it MUST be a better life for the man. I think you can love GOD AND your partner and kids.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
Besides, if you have a relationship problem and you want to discuss it with your priest, it would be helpful for them to have a more hands-on experience with the other sex. (Pun not intended. I swear)

Date: 2007-06-22 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altonwings.livejournal.com
Technically Jesus practiced some form of witchcraft in the bible. There is a passage where a blind man asks for his sight back--but Jesus doesn't just touch him like he does everyone else. He takes some dirt and spits in it, creating a paste, and rubs that over the mans eyes.

It has been suggested that this proves Jesus was not the son of God (he always used the term 'Son of Man'), but instead merely another prophet at best.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
I would interpret that as merely doing something that would help the man believe. After all, the miracles Jesus did were all about the person in question believing it.

But you're right, I wonder what the Baptists in question would have to say about this particular passage. I assume like most narrow-minded people, they only dig out the parts that agree with their preconceived notions and ignore the rest.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
AMEN to that !

Date: 2007-06-22 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
I am with dream with this one, but you make very interesting points !.

It's amazing how we three people on 3 separate continents can have a decent discussion.
Take note world leaders ! How is your new lady Chancellor going so far ?

Date: 2007-06-22 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
Our chancellor? She's doing good, as far as I can tell. She's still trying to get the Polish government to see reason, but I do think she has the respect of large parts of the international, if not the national community.

Date: 2007-06-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
That "God hates shrimp site" was hilarious. I took a peek at your site and user pics and note you are also a David Bowie and a Bruce Campbell AND a Dogma fan !!!
May I friend you ?

Date: 2007-06-22 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleverusername2.livejournal.com
Sure, I'm always up for new friends, particularly if they come from such a trusted source as Anna Maria. :)

Date: 2007-06-22 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
*g*
So that means if you are at loggerheads, it'll be my fault?
;-D

Date: 2007-06-22 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
I am one angry Baptist.
It disgusts me how these right wing wankers over in USA give us all a bad name. Basically, each Baptist Church is independent. Everything goes to a vote . I’ve never heard of anyone getting a knock back in my local church. There is a Baptist Union to which the churches belong but they are mainly there for advice/assistance and the President is voted on by all the churches. Our ultimate authority is the Bible.
If a pastor goes ratty their own Church CAN sack him or her, but they would most likely go to the Baptist Union for help first. We don’t have Bishops, Archbishops or the Pope like the Anglicans and the Catholics of course.

Our pastor once said in a sermon that recently, the combined churches of Australia (Catholic and Protestant) paid a national independant company for a survey. Basically they found that " MOST people like Jesus, it is Christians that they DO NOT LIKE"

and no wonder with what you have told us today. I read harry Potter so I suppose that makes me practice witch craft. *SNORT*

Date: 2007-06-22 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
Don't worry, I won't blame the Baptists as a whole for the morons in their midst.
Just like I don't blame my many Methodist friends for the moron that is the shrub-in-power. (As my "surrogate grandfather", who is a Methodist pastor, usually says: God does talk to the shrub-in-power, like He talks to all Methodists. It isn't God's fault if he doesn't listen...)

At the huge book fair in Leipzig, there was for years an organization with the motto "God yes, church no", and they greally caught people's attention.

Date: 2007-06-22 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-from-aust.livejournal.com
Thank GOD ! I thought Bush was a Baptist. Poor Methodists. I like them. Over here they have the best "social justice" ministry and if I ever get annoyed with the Baptists I shall transfer to the Methodists (Uniting Church here) in an augenblick ! (flash ?). I went to Methodist Sunday school and they never taught any of this hate crap. My Sunday School teacher would be appalled by the Self Righteous Shrub

I think Martin Luther King was a Baptist so I gladly accept him. If I ever go to USA I shall visit a black Baptist church. I am sure they will not mind a visiting Aussie.

Date: 2007-06-22 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonthedull.livejournal.com
I am, therefore, a drug-abusing hippie who locks up her child, is busy contracting HIV or at least one other STD, practices witchcraft and participates in all kinds of debauched endeavours with dangerous people whom I follow home if they ask me to.

Is it wrong of me to think that makes you sexier?? :-)

I'll figure out what I am latter on. I've got work I need to do. Ugh. Working at work sucks.

Date: 2007-06-22 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dream-labyrinth.livejournal.com
:-)

At least it's something to pass the time.

Date: 2007-06-22 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyrood.livejournal.com
I am, therefore, a drug-abusing hippie who locks up her child, is busy contracting HIV or at least one other STD, practices witchcraft and participates in all kinds of debauched endeavours with dangerous people whom I follow home if they ask me to.

ME TOO.

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